jaime as you know by law a majority of them cannot have practiced medicine or not have served patients. this is just astounding, as opposed to the positive solution that we put forward which is to make it so that those in and nyiri taoeurplt don't see any changes to at current medicare program, have expand epd choices and those under the age of 55 have a greater opportunity for choices and a more responsive healthcare program and we can still do that as congressman ryan said last night white house harming our current seniors. we believe we can grandfather the grandfathers, so there are positive solutions. jamie: one of whom, congressman forgive me for interrupting is paul ryan's mom who says benefits from the program, his grandmother also and he would never eliminate the program. but the $716 billion number joe biden says that's actually what we'll be saving. ama and aarp endorsed their plan. do you think that will be con futuressing to seniors? who really has it right? >> it is confusing, you're shr-rt lee right. but the a arblgs rp after last week's debate with the president says don